Posts by Anony Mous

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Is immorality escalating?

by jworld in

i got the convention update from my mom, who attended this past weekend.

sounds like the society made the claim that immorality is escalating at a faster clip.

is that true?

Anony Mous

I've also heard the claim several times. And immorality is just a 'churchy' way of saying 'doing stuff in ways I don't agree with'.

- Immorality as in criminal conduct has gone down: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/december/crimestats_122109

- Immorality as in divorce rates has gone down: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18600304/ns/us_news-life/t/us-divorce-rate-falls-lowest-level/

- Immorality as in teen pregnancy has gone down almost 40%: http://blog.rwjf.org/publichealth/2011/04/06/teen-birth-rates-in-u-s-down-but-still-lag-other-developed-nations/

- Immorality as in alcohol and hard drugs treatment rates have gone down, soft drugs slightly up: http://wwwdasis.samhsa.gov/teds08/teds2k8sweb.pdf

What is noticed however in most of these studies is that the rates have significantly gone down among the well-educated classes of our society however the low-educated parts are also down but at lesser rates.

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On Sat in Kitchener,

by mouthy in

jw
friends

i am picketing the assembly....i know many on here think that is nuts.

but at 84 i can do what i ruddy well like.12 noon i will stand with another bloke.

whos wife is a jw & it is destroying their marriage...the kitchener auditorium.

Anony Mous

Millions now living will never die!

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what was your "back burner?"

by stillin in

when i was studying in the truth book i laid aside quite a few questions, feeling that i was learning something important, and that those "nagging questions" would be answered in due course.

most of those questions have gone unanswered because i was led along, like a stupid pig with a ring in his nose, by other pseudo-questions of, really, non-importance.

i've had problems with conforming, if that is the word, with "correct speak" in the organization, and it has been apparant to most of the people i've known over the years.

Anony Mous

I never understood why God allowed suffering. Of all the subjects, that one is the most beat to death one by JW's as an 'entry-level' question however they could never answer it satisfactory because the answer generates in itself more questions. If God wanted something answered why did he wait so long? Why could he not have answered it himself? Shouldn't Adam and Eve dying be proof enough? Didn't Job answer it, Moses, David, Abraham, Jesus?

Then also, if this is the "Truth" and an organization led by Holy Spirit why do I see constantly that people leave, people are pharisaic, people talk behind your back, people need 5 sheets of paper to explain how to put in the correct numbers for finance and still mess it up, why does the Holy Spirit need to know on paper how much hours I spent in service this month, why do people think it's not Truth if they go to college, why does the "Truth" have to change, why are some of the most incompetent baffoons appointed, why is everyone so poor and lowly educated (I actually put that last question in an essay (I got as punishment) to my parents when I was about 12 years old)?

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Surprised reaction

by truthseeker1969 in

my brother who attends meetings was at the hall when they were explaining the "generation" new lite.. he said he was stunned when a rumble went through the congo which he said sounded like "oh here we go again" and then laughing.. the brother sittig next to him said 'what next" and after the meeting a lot of people were mad that instead of leaving what they do not know they re-invented it.. elders were being surrounded by people asking them to explain it.. this happened a few weeks ago but there is also alot of anger at the "mentally diseased " comment made by the gb as people view it as an outright attack on family members.

i think i smell trouble.. he is not one who shuns and told the elders that until they show him where jesus said shun then he will continue to talk to me.. one elder told him that if he persists in talking to me then he could be brought before a committe to which he told him "it would be your funeral".

so me thinks they are truly in a panic!.

Anony Mous

Actually, for it to be accurate, the picture should have 2 more people in order to represent the generation of annointed in 1914. The new light should have the little kid either popping out a baby right now or empty spaces for 2-5 more people.

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Anyone here from Oakville and/or Ancaster, Ontario?

by Ontario_guy in

first time poster here and i was just wondering if anyone on here is from ancaster or oakville, ontario?.

just sick and tired of the double-standard with the so-called witnesses from these areas.

unless you drive a benz, bmw or audi you are nothing.

Anony Mous

Hi MttM. The reason they feel better when denigrating others is because of the closed social group they reside in. They only have each other to compare to. I myself have very nice, well-fitted suits (altering usually costs another $30 on top of the $300-700 I spend on suits FYI) and when I enter some praise me (or my wife) for the nice looking suit and some are jealous making remarks about my job or my wife working.

The funny thing is that the CO's are usually nicer dressed (Armani on the inside pocket is not unusual and I know very few in my circuit that can dish out $3000 every time he comes around) and nobody says something. Just goes to show you that not everyone is equal in the society. Money means power, showing your money is a good way to get ahead (as illustrated by the baffoon in my congregation that became MS 6 months after baptism simply because he is very well endowed).

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How important are God and Jesus to you?

by Nickolas in

i ask this question because it goes to:.

- how disposed to objectively considering contrarian evidence you are, and.

- how much i might be messing with your life and happiness by helping you see things the way i do.. i read the posts of many people on this board who are apparently happy, even deliriously happy, with their theism.

Anony Mous

I want Him/Her to exist because then it would be easy to blame a lot of stuff but the matter of fact is that He/She can logically not exist and even if It does, the odds of us doing it wrong and thus invoking his wrath anyway are against us. There are and have been thousands of religions and they all say that if you're not doing it right, God or gods will destroy you (or punish you).

You cannot limit yourselves to the Biblical god either because the Bible is full of contradictions and logical fallacies so you have to be accepting of any god or gods in order to be truly objective. The greeks had it right when they recorded their philosophical tragedies - gods are hard to please and doing what one god wants may upset another one so why bother pleasing a God or body of gods (the Godderning Body ) that can never be satisfied (as symbolized by the unlimited sacrifices of the Jews/Israelites) if you can just as well make your way yourself in love and fine works?

The biblical God is a contradiction in itself. You cannot be perfect in love and be all-powerful yet allow suffering. The omni's assigned to the being (omniscient, omnipotent,...) are logical fallacies in themselves since you are not omnipotent if you can't can't do something, you can't be omniscient and account for free will.

It's safer for us as a society to not be able to blame something else for our own shortcomings and thus we should concentrate on bettering ourselves instead of leaving it up to a supernatural being. Whether you need a God for that is up to you but I think I'll do fine without. God is a nice concept as a parent when teaching a child - don't do wrong because something is watching over you and it has it's place in social structure. However we have all grown up now and don't have to be acting as children anymore, take responsibility and suffer the consequences.

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Well the dirty piece of trash got off.

by sooner7nc in

jw
friends

http://news.yahoo.com/casey-anthony-acquitted-killing-young-daughter-191600480.html .

Anony Mous

@NewChapter

The prosecution introduced junk science because it would set a precedent. They thought they had a open and shut case as she was 'obviously' guilty and introducing junk science would legitimize the practice.

How do you think fingerprinting and DNA evidence came into such heavy use? There is no proof or studies that show either is unique (mathematically actually it's fairly probable that 2 people have the same) and there is actually scientific proof and case reports that show most of the common DNA tests do not test extensive enough to be used as a unique identifier.

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I kinda hope my wife finds out about me

by Anony Mous in

so we had a 'special' visitor today in our hall, somebody from patterson, young fellow with a wife.

off course i didn't catch that at first until he started name dropping in the first 5 minutes that he was from bethel .

so he goes on rambling about how we live in the last days and blah-di-blah .

Anony Mous

I've had a 'bible study' with my wife yesterday. I finally got on the subject of the Governing Body and failed predictions. She hasn't forgotten yet about what I told previously about Russell and the pyramid I showed her from the Studies of the Scriptures in the KH library as she brought it up herself. She still gets stuck in the 'brighter light' mindset which I can work on as soon as we get to Sodom and Gomorrah.

She seems to understand that I am a doubter and she even asked me if I don't believe it anymore. I said "I didn't say that" because her having very good ties with her elder family is dangerous. She also seems to get the idea that many in the congregation are still in position (elders and pioneers) although they are bold-faced liars (about their behavior as well as their time reporting) but she seems to think the CO is going to do something about it next time he comes. The funny thing is, he won't, the elder in question is protecting his family and because his kids are minors he can use the 'rules' in his favor. The CO had already come but since then new information about wrongdoing has come out so she thinks the investigation is still ongoing. I'm not anywhere near the committee so officially I don't know about the internals but hey, in "God's" organization nothing remains secret for very long.

She knows somethings amiss but she still has the idea that the Holy Spirit is going to fix it. Only time can fix that I guess. I need to get her to think critically now but I've got time.

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Well the dirty piece of trash got off.

by sooner7nc in

jw
friends

http://news.yahoo.com/casey-anthony-acquitted-killing-young-daughter-191600480.html .

Anony Mous

Better be happy she got off because next time it could be you in that court room. All the prosecution had was circumstantial evidence and allegations of unrelated behavior. Maybe she wasn't a good mother, maybe the media blew it a bit out of proportion as they usually do. You would really have to take a good look at the FACTS presented in order to make a good judgment. The fact that some make a judgment based on media reports is proof something basic is wrong with the education of the American public on their basic civil rights.

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Lakers Kobe Bryant -- blood procedure puts him at DF risk?

by FatFreek 2005 in

it may be a month old news but we're just hearing it.

citing four unidentified sources familiar with the situation, the los angeles times on friday reported that the lakers superstar had a procedure about a month ago that is a derivation of platelet-rich plasma therapy.

prp procedures are less invasive than many surgeries involving the knee.

Anony Mous

It would be acceptable (or a 'conscientious decision') since the blood doesn't seem to be stored outside the body. It's very similar to a cell-saver from what I read so that is acceptable. Off course you won't see that in the widely circulated Blotchtower but only when you really, really need it (aka you are almost dying and called the elders) and have not denied it based on your own 'knowledge' of Blotchtower Policy (BP) on Major Blood Spills.